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What Your Sexual Fantasies (Might) Say About You | Part 2

Last Updated: October 30, 2019

The evangelical community’s preoccupation with combatting lust has over-simplified and trivialized a far more complex issue within human sexuality. We exert tremendous effort attempting to stop our sexual fantasies, but neglect the critical task of understanding what these fantasies might be communicating. Efforts to eliminate lust set us up to manage our sexual life with a tourniquet. We end up spending the best years of our life battling the flow of lust, darting our eyes away from attractive people, and taking drastic measures to stay accountable. I think we can all agree this is not what God had in mind for desire, sex, and community.

Our inability to “succeed” in purity only compounds our pain. In our pain, we default to the same, ineffective treatment plan. We spend time in prayer, pursue accountability, occasionally hide, and hope that God might change us. The complexity is that these well-intended efforts fail to engage the underlying issues that drive our sexual lust and anger. A much better approach might begin by asking God to help us understand our lust.

This year I completed research on the key drivers of unwanted sexual behavior, be that pornography, an affair, buying sex and the like. Over 3,600 men and women participated in the study. What I can tell you is that sexual struggles are not random or capricious. They develop in the formative emotional and sexual soil of your childhood and flourish in the unaddressed dynamics of your present life.

In my first blog on sexual fantasies, I addressed sexual fantasies where men had power over women. I received many requests to take a closer look at the other most common sexual fantasy of males–being pursued by an older or more powerful woman, and that’s what this follow-up article speaks to.

Your Sexual Fantasies Are Not Random

Jeff was in his late 20’s when he began experiencing a season of painful depression. The majority of his friends were married and Jeff’s career had seemingly plateaued at his company. He had no idea what to do next. In his paralysis, Jeff found himself caring less about the things he once worked so hard to maintain–integrity, a healthy lifestyle, and ambition. In a moment of distress, he e-mailed a mentor from college asking if they had a referral to see a therapist for depression.

When I met Jeff, his pain was palpable. He stared out the window and looked long into the gray Seattle horizon. What he eventually disclosed was that he picked me as a therapist because of my focus on unwanted sexual behavior. Jeff did not believe he was a sex addict, but did believe that pornography was playing a role in his life that he did not want. Additionally, his pornography use led him to believe that he was unwanted.

There is a glut of information out there that tells us Jeff’s struggle with pornography is a common problem in our society. But this data tells us little about the ‘why’ behind our collective drive for pornography. My research found that the type of pornography and sexual behavior you pursue can be predicted by the major themes and significant relationships that have marked your life.

Jeff disclosed that his struggle with pornography would often escalate during periods of depression. He remarked, “The more I feel pain and hopelessness, the more I seek out porn.” Curious, I asked Jeff how he curates his porn searches based on his emotional pain. He paused for a moment and asked, “So you think the specifics of my porn searches are associated with the particular pain I am experiencing?”

I responded by saying that each of us have an arousal cocktail. This is a mixture of thoughts, images, stories, and fantasies that influence the pornographic content we find arousing. When we find ourselves depressed, angry, bored, or lonely, we will often seek out a particular type of pornography apropos to our situation. If we want to outgrow our need for pornography, we need to gain a sense of what it symbolizes for us.

My research showed that the majority of men pursued sexual fantasies where they had power over women. This often involved men seeking out women who were younger, had a smaller body type, and had a particular race that suggested (to them) subservience. The other primary category for men however dealt with men who wanted the woman in the pornography to have the power (or at least for it to appear that way). These men fantasized about older women, attractive mother figures, and women in positions of authority over them (boss, teacher, etc.).

Jeff disclosed to me that his primary pornography searches tend to be for attractive mother figures. The videos that appeal to him the most involve a plot where a friend’s mom or a teacher single out a male student or young adult. The mother or authority figure sees the man’s charm, or need or sadness, and eventually seduces him to sex.

Sexual Abuse Shapes Pornography Preferences

After Jeff disclosed this, he remembered a movie he saw in college about an older woman who cares for a teenager in a state of distress. When the adolescent is nursed back to health, the woman seduces him. As a college student, he attempted to find the specific sex scenes from this film on the Internet and he pursued pornography portraying similar themes. Jeff thought for a moment and said, “This is really interesting. I definitely seek out a lot of variety in porn, but the main theme is definitely about wanting to be pursued, cared for, and eventually seduced by an older woman.”

In our following session, Jeff wanted to continue to explore why older women captured his sexual fantasy life. I reflected to Jeff that many of his fantasies entailed the use of porn or film, but wondered if this fantasy preference was mirroring anything that had happened to him personally. Jeff thought about it for a moment and then revealed that his first “sexualization moment” came in the context of someone about six years older than him.

Jeff was in 5th grade, when his parents began going on dates once or twice a month. His babysitter was a 16-year-old family friend named Christina. A typical evening entailed Christina cooking dinner for Jeff and his two little sisters and then getting the girls down to sleep. When Christina came back downstairs, she would take out a game like Uno for her and Jeff to play. At first, Jeff felt tremendously shy around her, but the more games and laughter they shared, the more he grew to love their time together.

Jeff remembered coming home from a rough day of school where he was made fun of for wearing “whitey tighties” instead of “boxers” like the other cool classmates. Although he felt shame, he also found himself anticipating time with Christina later that night. He fantasized about her laughing with him and how she would often tap his leg with delight when he would win a game or say something silly. He learned in that moment that fantasy could reduce pain.

One Friday night in early December, Christina proposed a new idea. She would take off her shirt and let him touch her body if he won the game. Jeff’s body shook with anticipation and fear. Christina read him well and said, “Don’t worry, I’ll guide you. It’s going to be fun.”

Jeff’s sexual abuse continued until Christina got a job the following spring at a store that required her to work weekend evenings. Jeff felt so ambivalent about his relationship to his babysitter. He loved Christina’s attention, her touch, her high school status, but he also felt so abandoned and used when she left her babysitting post.

What Your Porn Searches Might Say About You

As you may have noticed, Jeff’s formative childhood experiences of sex had to do with being emotionally pursued, aroused, and eventually abandoned by someone six years older than him. The question then must be asked–how could he expect his sexual struggles as an adult to not be reflective of this story? His pornography use was an attempt to find a familiar sexual story, but also to be in control of how it played out. In this way, unwanted sexual behavior does more than expose your sin, it reveals the portions of your life that are unaddressed and therefore unresolved.

My research showed that men who fantasized about mother figures, larger body types, and women who appeared to be in a position of power had three key drivers:

  • Depression
  • A history of sexual abuse
  • A father who confided in his son about his difficulties with his personal life or marriage.

Once you dive deeper into the ‘why’ of your sexual fantasies, you quickly enter the stories that await your engagement. Sexual brokenness, if you listen to it, will reveal your way to healing.

Listen to Your Lust

My hope is that as you read this post, scenes were coming to mind. I am not asking you to draw hard and fast conclusions between your formative sexual experiences and your present day sexual brokenness. Instead, the point is to reconsider stories you may have long ago dismissed as irrelevant to your struggle with pornography.

The irony of unwanted sexual fantasy is that it will be the most honest portion of your life until you begin to address your past wounds and the difficulties of your present life. Apart from sheer willpower and militant surveillance, Jeff would not be able to stop using pornography until two core issues of his life were confronted.

For one, Jeff needed to address the reenactment occurring in pursuing a pornographic world where older women would pursue him in similar way to the erotic and harmful abuse he experienced. Secondly, Jeff’s depression stemming from his career plateau allowed pornography to take up residence like a squatter. His pornography use offered him a surrogate experience of “care,” but it only furthered the judgment against himself for his inability to move out of paralysis. The antidote was to take responsibility for his own care by pursuing therapeutic and professional guidance.

Sexual fantasies are messengers. You may not like the news they bring, but they will knock on the door of your life until you listen to what they need to tell you. In my experience, talking to your accountability partner or therapist about the possible meaning within your sexual fantasies will take you further into transformation than a hundred nights of prayerful despair.

Sexual Brokenness Is the Stage of Redemption

Porn searches await your curiosity and invite your kindness. Romans 2:4 is clear that the kindness of God is what leads to change. Very often it is our self-hatred that blinds us from seeing the kind face of God. It is my firm conviction that God is neither surprised nor ashamed of our sexual struggles, but understands them to be the very stage through which the work of redemption will be played out. If sexual struggles are not grounds for judgment, they are the very geography where we come to know the kindness and transforming power of God.

A few questions to consider:

  • What are the specific pornography searches that tend to arouse you the most? What might these sexual fantasies symbolize?
  • What age were these sexual fantasies established? What was going on in your life at the time?
  • Think of a time in the last 6 months when you used pornography to provide you relief and simultaneously find power amidst depression or futility.

Jay Stringer

Start Your Journey to Freedom

To help men and women on the recovery road, Stringer, The Heart of Man movie, and Covenant Eyes are working together to provide support. Journey Into the Heart of Man with Jay Stringer provides a five-month course that includes inspiring presentations, a self- assessment for people to see how their story shapes their sexual choices, and exercises to bring change. Stringer said, “Just as our sexual brokenness is not random, our journey to freedom is not either. In the Journey Into the Heart of Man, I wanted to equip accountability partners, small groups, and faith communities in a way they have not been equipped before to find healing.”

The recovery journey takes time and focus…to grow, learn, have fun, explore, and discover. How long? Stringer said most of his clients find freedom in two to five years. That doesn’t mean they are acting out during that time, but it takes time to shake off the debris of the past and live free.

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  1. Michael C

    The father seems to be the problem in this article but nowhere is it mentioned the negative effects of an overbearing, judgmental, misandrist mother. I would be interested in how that might manifest itself in sexual fantasy. I grew up with a mother who believed male sexuality was horrible and men were sex-obsessed animals. The anti-male brain washing eventually led to an inability to have even the courage to ask women out on a date because I was so afraid they might find out I like sex too much. When I got married I saw my wife as somebody I constantly had to prove my worthiness to or else I wouldn’t deserve to have sex with her.

    Is there a therapy for this problem?

    • Kay Bruner

      It sounds like you are describing the very common and extremely harmful views of purity culture. Men and women have both been deeply harmed by this kind of thinking. I would suggest finding a therapist who specializes in religious trauma. You might also appreciate the book, Pure, by Linda Kay Klein. It’s about how the purity movement has harmed women, but I think you would find it relateable. At least it might provide some insight into what drove your mother’s unfortunate views of men. I don’t know of a comparable book written about the harm done to men; perhaps that will be your mission!

  2. Rue

    I’m encouraged to see posts like this within the Christian community, and I thank you for writing this. When I read part one, you seemed to hint at diving into this for the female side as well. I have been looking for that installment with a lot of hope and can’t seem to find it. Have you written any articles that could help women understand their problems better like this? Please link to them if you have.

    • K

      One thing I’m thinking is that the key to female sexual issues is love. Because it says in Ephesians (or wherever) “wives respect your husbands” and “husbands love your wives” and I had heard on a radio show on this topic is that the idea is that women are naturally wired to need love in a similar way that men are wired to need a certain kind of respect to feel ok and (like the curse goes from Genesis) women desire their husband… But he will rule over her. My fantasies definitely have a power element to them but the most destructive fantasies i have experienced have been in getting a crush on a guy and hoping he will love me and finding that he is totally repulsed by me. Likewise, it’s interesting to read about men’s problems because I was in a 12 step program for a while for sex and love addiction and i was just baffled at the kind of guys who liked me but who i just could not find it in myself to respect. They expected me to be the opposite kind of person than i was. And perhaps the same goes for the guys i find myself attracted to, that i was weak where they wanted me to be strong or something.

      But I know God can fix us too. I was praying today the Lord would raise up more people out of this sexually broken generation(s) to help labor in the harvest and build up the church here. Thanks for letting God use you.

      Thank You Jesus, please bless the people here and fix them completely and use us for your glory! Amen

  3. Jemel

    This has been an eye opener for me. Im 24, I’m currently married right now and I’ve been struggling to getting away from pornography my whole life and praying and fighting to keep it from hurting my marriage but I’ve failed to many times to count. before when me and my wife first met I’ve told my wife that I’ve had problems and that I struggle with masturbating but when we got married she thought that she could change me. I thought the same I thought that after I’ve been married that I don’t have to worry about being tempted to look at porn because I have everything I’ve need from my wife but it didn’t, if anything it got worse. I’ve would have months of being saved from porn but it only took only one thing to trigger it and I would spiral on a binge of porn and its been like this for months through out the years and I’ve felt worthless, unlovable guilt, the worst husband ever and I cried at night and pray for God to change my heart and to be a man of God for my wife that I need to be. I would be so tempted that wherever I go I’m constantly tempted wherever I walk to im tempted to look at some woman I would have to walk around, change my thoughts, look away, and pray to take those thoughts captive. Absolutely anything, to get myself right with God and now I live this sin conscious life now and I feel like I’ve tried everything even people have told me that mybad this is the thorn in your side that God won’t remove because he wants you to always keep praying and if he takes it away he’ll know that you won’t pray to him. So I don’t know what else to do because I feel like my prayers aren’t going to be answered. My sin has dishonored my wife and how am i supposed to change and ask for Gods help if I know that because of my sin/dishonor against my wife their not going to be answered? or maybe perhaps I’m misunderstanding something? But I feel that I’ve tried everything and this lust wont go away. I love my wife but it’s just feels that im just trying to win her approval and trust more than anything. I’m not saying that the holy spirit has failed me because that would be a lie. but after all this guilt and shame and disgust I don’t feel worthy of God’s Grace because I feel that im going to disappoint God again and again and im having a hard time keeping the faith. And I just need God’s holy spirit to strengthen me.

    • Bob Jones

      You and me both, brother.

      A few things I have learned (the hard way): My wife cannot change me. God has to change me, and I have to be willing. I have no strength of my own, I cannot trust myself to resist temptation. I must remove myself from potentially tempting situations before the temptation strikes. I must heal for my own soul’s salvation first and foremost, I cannot base my motivation for healing on my wife.

      Keep going, and stay connected with people. Find an SA meeting, I recommend that as a source of fellowship in addition to church.

    • Sophia Rukundo

      Me too
      Well me I ain’t married. I am seventeen and trying to identify myself. I was sexually harassed my uncle at 9 and it triggered me into viewing God. I encountered God at the age of nine and since 14 I have been praying to quite this vice. It at times feels like I am free but it takes something small to draw me back in.I feel like I am failing God every second and I want God to bless me in ministry but I believe with this I can’t be a help to anyone. I can’t tell my friends cause I told them before I had overcome this cause I thought I had.
      May God be our very present help in times of trouble.

    • Jemel,

      Thanks for sharing a bit of your story. You are highlighting one of the major myths so many people walk into marriage with – that a spouse will help eliminate porn use. I would point you to this blog addresing the reasons we watch porn – https://www.covenanteyes.com/2018/01/25/who-watches-porn-3-key-predictors-of-porn-use/

      I think you would really appreciate the last resource I mention – the film, The Heart of Man.

      Kindness to you,

      Jay

  4. Nathan E

    Thanks for the insightful posts like this Covenant Eyes. I don’t think you would have had the guts to post something truly helpful like this even a handful of years ago. You’ve come a long way!

  5. Concerned wife

    Very interesting articles. My husband has struggled with lesbian porn. Any comment on that?

    • A struggling husband

      I have struggled with lesbian porn, and I don’t actually know why it appeals to me. From my many therapy sessions and intensive outpatient treatment program, I have discovered that one thing that shaped my arousal template is when I was young, there were a number of instances where girls my age would expose themselves to me, and I found that exciting, and soon I was trying to spy on girls myself (I was around 10 at the time), and I even tried convincing girls to expose themselves to me. When I was 14, my friends introduced me to porn magazines, and I remember being excited by the fact that these women seemed willing to expose themselves to me, and it just went from there.

      That said, I am not sure how that relates to lesbian porn, although in the past relapses I’ve had, I always end up with lesbian porn. Men in porn scenes were always just an annoyance to me. Maybe lesbian porn is simply the “next step up” from the excitement of women exposing themselves to me. Maybe they are “exposing their sexuality” or something like that through their actions on screen.

      I imagined that these women liked what they did and liked showing me, and that fed the fantasy and the addiction. Of course, this is all a lie. In reality, these women are pretty much sex slaves, held by money, drugs, and threats, and forced to perform these scenes.

  6. restored

    Thank you for continuing this series.I hope you continue this series as neither example is something I sought after, and I am curious as to how many other major types of fantasies people struggle with.

    Honestly This series with two articles has been the most indepth articles I have ever read in the christian community on the root causes of sexual addiction, and I thank you for that. If you have any links to any other articles simular to this one I would appreciate it.

    • Restored,

      Thank you for your kind words and for the support of my work. Feel free to go to my website: http://www.jay-stringer.com/book/ and sign-up for a free chapter. That will make sure you get access to my book release date and a newsletter that will feature monthly insights aligned with these two blog posts on the “why” behind our fantasies.

      Jay

    • restored

      Mr stringer thank you for that chapter, it has confirmed a lot of things I have been doing in my battle against porn. I am a single guy who has not looked at porn or masturbated in over two years and I have written out my story at singlevsporn.com My story is more than just when I looked at porn its all the stuff that led up to it, and fed it. I look forward to reading the rest of your book. If you have some time I would love your imput on what I wrote on my site (my story is about 10,000 words long, then I wrote a bunch of articles on all the other stuff I did or am doing to find what I call the heart issues).

  7. Gary

    Very good article

  8. Deborah Flanagan

    Is there a part 1? I can’t find it.

    • Chris McKenna

      Hi, Deborah – here is Part 1.
      Chris

  9. Gem Frs

    I read your two articles with interest but cannot find myself in Ben or Jeff stories, nor in their profiles even if I think I’m more like Jeff.

    Will you provide other testimonies with other kinds of profiles ?

    • Chris McKenna

      Hello, I do suspect that we will continue writing on this topic.

      Regards,
      Chris

  10. Carl

    How is this article supposed to help? It actually tempted me to think about past porn memories. I don’t get the purpose of this article at all. I understand that this might be useful to some, in a private therapy session, but not as a CE blog article.

    • Sam

      Changing the topic a little but this topic has come up a few times and we’re wondering if someone can address it.
      We are a group of 5 men who are accountable to each other and our spouses for the porn addiction we all have experienced. Thank God for Covenant Eyes that keeps us on a straight course.
      But in our conversations we have some questions that we have not seen answered in the wonderful CE blogs that we read and discuss, applying to our lives. We hope that someone will perhaps write a blog addressing these issues and how we can deal with them. So here goes:

      1. Are enhancement pills wrong (whether the “blue” pill or some herbal ingredients) to keep it going. We have no health issues regarding medical ED, varying senior ages (65+)?

      2. One person thought that perhaps these “enhancements” are a form of porn in that it is the only way to be sexually active…comments?

      3. If age is a factor (i.e. less hormones) then is it okay to take these or should we just let nature take its course and accept that “we’re not what we used to be”? We know media plays a big factor in people’s thinking (you deserve this, make your spouse feel better type thing) but what would be a solid Christian view?

      We hope that some of your writers will be able to respond to this since we don’t feel that we are all alone on these issues. Thank you for considering this

      Sam

    • Chris McKenna

      Hi, Sam – I appreciate your honesty! And, I don’t think this is something we’ve address (it would make for a great blog post). A few thoughts:

      – Sex is a good thing. My body was designed to have and enjoy sex with my wife. (True)
      – Our bodies age, wear, get sick.
      – Medicine is there to help (when used correctly and in moderation).

      I like this explanation: “Persons with diabetes take insulin to restore a normal function that their bodies are failing to maintain. Persons with cancer take chemotherapy drugs to combat an abnormal function of their body’s cells. In both cases, the goal is to restore the “healthy” function of the body. Used as intended, ED medications serve the same purpose. They aid a person in restoring a function their body was specifically designed to fulfill.” [gotquestions.org]

      What do you think? Agree/disagree? This isn’t something that Covenant Eyes is going to take a stand on, but I think it’s an interesting dialogue and I appreciate that you brought it up.

      Regards, Chris

    • Sam

      One more question our group has regarding enhancement pills. Do these pills develop a dependence on the use of them over time; that without the use of them ED occurs? Harmful effects?

    • Caroline

      Yea I agree, plus it completely disreguards women when we tend to be more likely “addicted” users, not that men aren’t. Hm.

    • Carl,

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I can certainly see where you are coming from about being tempted. I also recognize that almost anything on the internet and several stories from the Bible have the potential of creating temptation too. This article is about exploring the ‘why’ behind specific fantasies in order to allow them to reveal the stories that set-up our porn use to begin with. In the same way that back pain might be trying to get our attention about our posture or a car wreck that we jury-rigged a solution for, the things that tempt us have things to teach us about ourselves.

    • FromCA

      (Woman here). Excuse me but this article was very triggering in terms of too much information, and too explicit.

      It’s not necessary for you as Christians to give us Christians a full run down of someone’s perverted fantasies, describe to us what their fantasies wore, what age they were.

      This is as bad as that book Every Man’s Battle which was much too explicit and lots of Christian men AND WOMEN had problems with it for that reason.

      Did we need to know all that information (to put those images into our heads) to make the same point?

      Common sense.

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