Our friend Josh McDowell visited the Covenant Eyes headquarters last week so we could work through some of the details of his upcoming global summit: Set Free. Our CEO Ron DeHaas pulled Josh aside to ask him why this conference is such a high priority for him.
“I’ve found in the last 5-7 years that one of the greatest barriers to young people and adults accepting biblical truth and understanding it is pornography.” – Josh McDowell
Stay tuned for more information about this summit. The conference will be in Charlotte, North Carolina, April 4-8, 2016.
I am so glad that there are people alive right now, other than myself, who do not watch pornography. I do not need to check in now and then, and see what new sinful, immoral, gross act they have done and filmed. I know that we have rules from GOD. I know that only some acts are permitted by GOD, and even if the human is able to do any act, does not make it permitted. This is part of the test from GOD. GOD Gave us bodies, able to do many things, but GOD Told us to do some things and not to do other things. Then GOD will make all of us die some day, and those who were good and obeyed GOD will be rewarded by GOD and those who disobeyed GOD and did not repent, will be punished by GOD I don’t want any punishment from GOD after I die. I vow to never purposely look at pornography and if it comes up without me looking for it, i plan to not look in detail and try my best to get rid of it. GOD Blessed us.
Where does it say not to look at pornography? If God didn’t want people to have sex, why is it such a high drive in us? Why are some acts permitted and some are not? There are two distinct Gods in the bible. I hate to tell you that the God of the Old Testament is not the God of the New Testament. You vow to do all those things but in past posts you want to send people to the hell of prisons and destroy lives and destroy generations of lives for just looking at porn. You have no idea of the things you say and have no conceptual understanding of morality. But I have this challenge for you. Go lock yourself in a prison and see what you want to send people to. Go cage yourself. Then when you get out, plunge yourself into poverty because you have a criminal record. Your idea of morality and compassion is extremely skewed. Go do to yourself what you want done to others. I am tired of self-righteous people like you that are clueless and then turn around and deny all the contradiction that are in the bible.
You have quite a few questions here, so I’ll try to take them one at a time.
1. “Where does it say not to look at pornography?” I assume by “it” you mean the Bible. The Bible does not talk about pornography in the sense we think about it today (just as the Bible doesn’t talk about washing machines, pickup trucks, and World War II—it is an ancient book). The Bible does, however, talk considerably about prostitution (of which pornography is a modern example of) and lust (which is what porn is largely used for).
2. “If God didn’t want people to have sex, why is it such a high drive in us?” The Bible is never down on sex. There isn’t a single verse in the Bible that is against sex. The Bible has plenty to say about the misuse of sex, but never anything bad to say about sex proper.
3. “Why are some acts permitted and some are not?” That’s a big question (since there are a lot of different sexual acts mentioned in the Bible), but the short answer is there are some sexual acts that conform to the nature of how we were created and other sexual acts that do not conform. If I owned a hammer and I tried to use it like a screwdriver, a speed drill, or a can opener, I would be trying to use the hammer in ways for which it was not designed. I could come up with a thousands rules about how not to use a hammer based on this principle. Similarly, Christians turn to the Bible to learn why God created sex, and then all the “rules” about sexuality in the Bible make sense.
4. “I hate to tell you that the God of the Old Testament is not the God of the New Testament.” How so? I’ve certainly heard that a lot before, but I’ve never really read a cogent argument that persuaded me.
5. “You vow to do all those things but in past posts you want to send people to the hell of prisons and destroy lives and destroy generations of lives for just looking at porn.” I’m not sure I’m following you. Who is saying you should go to prison or be in poverty for looking at porn?
Test from God? Please. Answer this for me. If God is testing us, then why are some people born into amazing circumstances and some into terrible ones? Why does one child get born into wealth and another born into abject poverty? Why do good people who prayed their entire life for good things get trampled on and others who do not pray at all get all their heart’s desires?
Test? You are only fooling yourself. Don’t say that God works in mysterious ways because that is a cop out answer from people who have no answer.
Don’t you find it the least bit odd that looking at people having sex is sinful, but killing babies is okay? What is up with that? That looking at a naked woman is horrible but hey it is okay to own slaves? Come on. It is time people got real with this stuff. In America, sex and nudity is taboo because of puritanical beliefs. It is totally ludicrous actually. But go and kill those babies and own those slaves. That is just fine.
Luke, I cannot reply to your comment, so I will add a new one.
1.) We have taken lust and stretched it so far that it applies to EVERYTHING. That is ludicrous. My God, science has proven that people are literally attracted to others extremely quickly. It is physically impossible not to lust. It gets old because EVERYTHING is a sin. No matter what you do. It is a sin. You are single and look at a woman — you are lusting. You look at porn — you are lusting. Tell you what. If God made this great situation, where everyone was supposed to have a wife — he should have made one person for everyone. Guess what. He didn’t do that. The bible is very unrealistic because literally everything is a sin. Literally.
2) So who wrote about the misuse of sex? Did God come down and write about it? No. Men wrote about it. Men, who once thought it was okay to own slaves. Men, who killed. Sorry, but whatever men touches he corrupts and this means the bible too. If people cannot see the dramatic shift in the bible, then I don’t know what to tell you. Then the bible itself had books taken away.
3) Some acts conform to nature and some do not? Really? There is infinite variation in nature. Infinite.
4) If you can’t see the difference between the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament, I just don’t know what to tell you. The God of the Old Testament was brutal. Simply brutal. The God of the New Testament isn’t. He went from wiping out the planet with a flood to talking about turning the other cheek. Polar opposites. Complete polar opposite.
5) In Jocelyn’s other comments on other articles, she advocates sending people to prison for pornography. She is clueless as to what that entails and the suffering that comes with it. Completely and utterly clueless.
1. I’m not sure what this has to do with my point #1, but I agree with you that it is ludicrous to make sexual lust apply to everything. While I agree some characterize sexual desire or attraction as sinful (the unnamed “we” in your statement do this), I don’t think the Bible does this (going back to my points #1 and #2). I’d love to hear why you think it does. Do you have any specific examples?
2. Did men inscribe the words of the Bible? Sure. Christians believe they were men inspired by God. Take Moses, for example. Why did his own contemporaries think he was inspired by God? Because they saw him divide the Red Sea at a word, make water burst from rocks, and call down deadly plagues. But the primary reason why Christians believe the Bible is inspired by God is because Jesus did. Did the inspired writers also kill people? Sure. But why is all killing wrong? By what rule (and whose rule) do you judge all killing to be wrong? Did they condone slavery? Some forms of slavery, yes (debt slavery, for instance, and certainly not the kind of slave trafficking we see today).
3. What do you mean by “infinite variation”?
4. So when the God of the New Testament promises to send Jesus back to earth to punish countless men and women into eternal hell, this isn’t “brutal” by your definition? I’m just not tracking with you.
5. I can’t comment on the exact nature of Jocelyn’s opinions, but I can’t say I agree with the notion that men who look at porn should be in prison.
I truely and deeply appreciate from deep within my heart the positive message of hope that Josh MacDowell presents.
God bless your heart
I am deeply thankfull for the heart you have in exposing the truth that disturbs the mind of man.
God bless this Online ministry