Comments on: Is Filtering All There Is? – Introducing Accountability Software http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/2008/06/12/is-filtering-all-there-is-introducing-accountability-software/ Thoughts on Pornography Addiction, Removing Online Temptation, and the Need for Accountability. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:48:18 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Richard Bernier http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/2008/06/12/is-filtering-all-there-is-introducing-accountability-software/comment-page-1/#comment-7724 Richard Bernier Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:05:07 +0000 http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/?p=389#comment-7724 Thanks for commenting on my blog and letting my readers know about accountability software. :) Thanks for commenting on my blog and letting my readers know about accountability software. :)

]]> By: Kathy http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/2008/06/12/is-filtering-all-there-is-introducing-accountability-software/comment-page-1/#comment-6196 Kathy Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:54:03 +0000 http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/?p=389#comment-6196 Hello Luke: I thank you for the visit and for the invitation to learn about this software you outline here. I had never heard of 'accountability software' before this, but it is intriguing. I firmly believe in teaching by example...children seeing their parents being accountable is a valid approach here. We keep all of our internet connected computers in common areas of our home so that encourages accountability in and of itself...but I think this is an interesting idea. Hello Luke: I thank you for the visit and for the invitation to learn about this software you outline here. I had never heard of ‘accountability software’ before this, but it is intriguing. I firmly believe in teaching by example…children seeing their parents being accountable is a valid approach here.

We keep all of our internet connected computers in common areas of our home so that encourages accountability in and of itself…but I think this is an interesting idea.

]]> By: Miss Suzy http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/2008/06/12/is-filtering-all-there-is-introducing-accountability-software/comment-page-1/#comment-4626 Miss Suzy Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:49:21 +0000 http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/?p=389#comment-4626 Thanks for visiting my blog, www.parentaltech.com. I think this software is a good idea for adults who have an accountability partner in place, or who would like to receive support with an accountability partner system. There is something about choosing to not go to a site, instead of being blocked from going to it, that I think is important for those who struggle with visiting inappropriate places. I don't think this strictly applies to pornography. If I knew my husband would see every site I went to, I might use my internet time more wisely. "Ebay...eBay....eBay...Craigslist....eBay....." Thanks for visiting my blog, http://www.parentaltech.com. I think this software is a good idea for adults who have an accountability partner in place, or who would like to receive support with an accountability partner system.
There is something about choosing to not go to a site, instead of being blocked from going to it, that I think is important for those who struggle with visiting inappropriate places. I don’t think this strictly applies to pornography. If I knew my husband would see every site I went to, I might use my internet time more wisely. “Ebay…eBay….eBay…Craigslist….eBay…..”

]]> By: Nichole http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/2008/06/12/is-filtering-all-there-is-introducing-accountability-software/comment-page-1/#comment-3644 Nichole Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:24:06 +0000 http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/?p=389#comment-3644 Luke ~ Thank you first of all for visiting my blog and letting me know of this accountability software. I think this is a great tool but I would feel more comfortable using BOTH tools...accountability as well as filtering. Luke ~ Thank you first of all for visiting my blog and letting me know of this accountability software. I think this is a great tool but I would feel more comfortable using BOTH tools…accountability as well as filtering.

]]> By: jamesL http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/2008/06/12/is-filtering-all-there-is-introducing-accountability-software/comment-page-1/#comment-3502 jamesL Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:32:09 +0000 http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/?p=389#comment-3502 i put an apology in, i don't see it so I'll apologize again. I just read a little more detail of your article, and see that you do recommend filtering in home for children. Don't now how i missed that. I see your point, that if that's all they see, that at age 18 you can look at what you want , they might get the wrong idea, but not from their parents, I hope! I think the accountabilty system might cause them to think that their parents are wannabe perverts who need someone else to guard them. Not sure about this. I stand by my posted statement. Have the filter for the kids, when they hit 18 they can make their own choices, which they're going to do anyway. Hopefully, they have been taught to respect themselves and others enough by then to stay away from harmful material. i put an apology in, i don’t see it so I’ll apologize again. I just read a little more detail of your article, and see that you do recommend filtering in home for children. Don’t now how i missed that. I see your point, that if that’s all they see, that at age 18 you can look at what you want , they might get the wrong idea, but not from their parents, I hope! I think the accountabilty system might cause them to think that their parents are wannabe perverts who need someone else to guard them. Not sure about this. I stand by my posted statement. Have the filter for the kids, when they hit 18 they can make their own choices, which they’re going to do anyway. Hopefully, they have been taught to respect themselves and others enough by then to stay away from harmful material.

]]> By: jamesL http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/2008/06/12/is-filtering-all-there-is-introducing-accountability-software/comment-page-1/#comment-3501 jamesL Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:26:02 +0000 http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/?p=389#comment-3501 oops, i see that you did commend filtering for children in the home.. my bad oops, i see that you did commend filtering for children in the home.. my bad

]]> By: jamesL http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/2008/06/12/is-filtering-all-there-is-introducing-accountability-software/comment-page-1/#comment-3500 jamesL Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:19:39 +0000 http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/?p=389#comment-3500 I don't get it. Your arguments are untenable. There is no advantage to children for the parents to use an accountability product instead of internet filtering. Absurd! Chilren should see their parents showing internet responsibility by placing the computer in an open area, not closing pages every time their child approaches the screen, and Yes, by having strong filtering system in place. The filtering is to protect them from both accidental and intentional exposures to very harmful materials, that could ruin their lives for years. Yes, they can seek it somewhere else sometimes, but they wouldn't have the liberty there that they would at home, so having filtering on the home computer is vital! An parent who doesn't employ internet filtering, in my opinion, hates their child. Just put a loaded gun on the kitchen table while you're at it and subscribe to every porn channel on your cable TV without blocking it either while you're at it. Just let them be accountable not to look at it, yeah! Agreed on the concept that the accountablity programs are better suited for adults trying to avoid porn access. But, the same thing is even more true here for adults with porn habit, than it is for curious children. Just as surely as there will be attempts, some successful, to bypass filtering by children, there will be the same efforts by adults on "accountability" services to bypass the system, or use another computer, or TV etc, etc. So, no accountabiltiy programs are not the answer either. Use a filtering program for unmarried children in your home and have a prayer buddy, preferably your spouse, to discuss your sexual hangups with. If you don't have that kind of openness with your spouse, you'll always have pain and strife in this area. TALK it out, and pray it out now, don't hide behind accoutability programs that really aren't doing the trick either. I agree more with your other blog about the legalism of all these ascetic attempts to harness the flesh, rather than emphasizing the spiritual, the freeing power of the grace of Jesus. That's where the answer is, that's what the human heart craves, freedom to do the right thing, not cages to keep them from the wrong, or nanny state accountability programs. Just my view. jl I don’t get it. Your arguments are untenable. There is no advantage to children for the parents to use an accountability product instead of internet filtering. Absurd! Chilren should see their parents showing internet responsibility by placing the computer in an open area, not closing pages every time their child approaches the screen, and Yes, by having strong filtering system in place. The filtering is to protect them from both accidental and intentional exposures to very harmful materials, that could ruin their lives for years. Yes, they can seek it somewhere else sometimes, but they wouldn’t have the liberty there that they would at home, so having filtering on the home computer is vital! An parent who doesn’t employ internet filtering, in my opinion, hates their child. Just put a loaded gun on the kitchen table while you’re at it and subscribe to every porn channel on your cable TV without blocking it either while you’re at it. Just let them be accountable not to look at it, yeah!
Agreed on the concept that the accountablity programs are better suited for adults trying to avoid porn access. But, the same thing is even more true here for adults with porn habit, than it is for curious children. Just as surely as there will be attempts, some successful, to bypass filtering by children, there will be the same efforts by adults on “accountability” services to bypass the system, or use another computer, or TV etc, etc. So, no accountabiltiy programs are not the answer either.
Use a filtering program for unmarried children in your home and have a prayer buddy, preferably your spouse, to discuss your sexual hangups with. If you don’t have that kind of openness with your spouse, you’ll always have pain and strife in this area. TALK it out, and pray it out now, don’t hide behind accoutability programs that really aren’t doing the trick either.
I agree more with your other blog about the legalism of all these ascetic attempts to harness the flesh, rather than emphasizing the spiritual, the freeing power of the grace of Jesus. That’s where the answer is, that’s what the human heart craves, freedom to do the right thing, not cages to keep them from the wrong, or nanny state accountability programs. Just my view. jl

]]> By: Jamie http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/2008/06/12/is-filtering-all-there-is-introducing-accountability-software/comment-page-1/#comment-2735 Jamie Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:51:10 +0000 http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/?p=389#comment-2735 As much as all of us at cantufind.com would love to see a good filtering system in place its been tried so many times before including by our company but its fundamentally flawed from the start because of the sheer dynamics of the web. Websites change, urls that were once guilty and blocked could be turned into very good resources, semantic manipulation used to maximum effect to make it difficult to monitor and so on. In saying that, the entire team at Cantufind.com wish you well and have even added you to our blogroll. Good luck. Jamie As much as all of us at cantufind.com would love to see a good filtering system in place its been tried so many times before including by our company but its fundamentally flawed from the start because of the sheer dynamics of the web.

Websites change, urls that were once guilty and blocked could be turned into very good resources, semantic manipulation used to maximum effect to make it difficult to monitor and so on.

In saying that, the entire team at Cantufind.com wish you well and have even added you to our blogroll. Good luck.

Jamie

]]> By: Alecia Beman-Dry http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/2008/06/12/is-filtering-all-there-is-introducing-accountability-software/comment-page-1/#comment-2489 Alecia Beman-Dry Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:35:00 +0000 http://www.covenanteyes.com/blog/?p=389#comment-2489 Luke--This is an intriguing prospect! I do like the idea of it and I think that if you want to have a market for schools and parents then you should create a mirror site for your product that does not mention pornography addicts, etc. Parents and schools will be reticent to align with a product that has that association--even if the product is designed to fight it. I hope you understand that I am not denigrating the site or the product. It's a great idea...but image counts in this Internet era :) Luke–This is an intriguing prospect! I do like the idea of it and I think that if you want to have a market for schools and parents then you should create a mirror site for your product that does not mention pornography addicts, etc. Parents and schools will be reticent to align with a product that has that association–even if the product is designed to fight it. I hope you understand that I am not denigrating the site or the product. It’s a great idea…but image counts in this Internet era :)

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